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    Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    I'm glad to hear this. Hopefully this will prevent Mrs. Schiavo from being deliberately starved to death by her husband. While it's possible she told him she didn't want to be kept alive by artificial means, one would think she would not be approving of death by this method. I'm not sure a feeding tube is considered 'artificial means.'

    And isn't it ironic they would starve to death a woman who came to be in this condition as the result of an eating disorder...


    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - The state House passed a bill Thursday that could keep Terri Schiavo alive, less than 24 hours before the severely brain-damaged woman's feeding tube is scheduled to be removed.

    The Senate began debating a more limited version of the bill as lawmakers rushed to beat the scheduled removal of Schiavo's feeding tube.

    The legislative action was part of a last-minute flurry of attempts to save Schiavo's life. Congress was also considering legislation to move the case to the federal courts, Schiavo's parents appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, and Florida Circuit Court Judge George Greer scheduled a hearing Thursday to consider a request from the state to halt the removal of the tube.

    The House bill would block the withholding of food and water from patients in a persistent vegetative state who didn't leave specific instructions refusing the artificial measure. It passed 78-37.

    "This provides a safety net where the government stands up for the vulnerable who don't otherwise have a voice," said Republican Rep. Kevin Ambler.

    Gov. Jeb Bush has strongly urged the Legislature to pass a bill that would save Schiavo, as it did in 2003. That law allowed Bush to order doctors to restore Schiavo's feeding tube six days after it had been removed. The law was later declared unconstitutional by the Florida Supreme Court.

    "We have a responsibility to act, to deal with this issue," Bush said. "It breaks my heart we're in a situation where it's possible this woman could starve to death."

    The Senate bill could also prevent Schiavo's death, but would only apply to cases where families disagreed on the patient's wishes.

    Schiavo, 41, has been at the center of a long and bitter court battle between her parents and her husband, who wants to remove her feeding tube so she can die.

    Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when her heart stopped temporarily, and court-appointed doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, says she told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents disagree that was her wish and say she could improve with proper treatment.

    Greer has granted Michael Schiavo permission to remove the feeding tube, a ruling a state appeals court upheld Wednesday. Without the feeding tube, Terri Schiavo would likely die in one to two weeks.

    Late Wednesday, the U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation that would delay removal of the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube by moving such a case to federal court. Federal judges have twice turned down efforts by the parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, to move the case out of Florida courts, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

    But Senate Democrats blocked the bill Thursday, and even Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., acknowledged that his own Republicans were not likely to agree to ultimately send the House legislation to President Bush for his signature.

    Frist said he would later try to pass a separate Senate bill and get it to the House before they leave for its Easter recess Friday.

    "If we don't act or if somebody does not act, a living person who has a level of consciousness, who is self-breathing will be starved to death here in the next two weeks," Frist said.

    At the White House, press secretary Scott McClellan said the case raises "a lot of complex issues" and declined to comment on specific legislation. But he said Bush "stands on the side of defending life."

    Also, Schiavo's parents filed an emergency motion at the U.S. Supreme Court to stop the removal of her feeding tube so lower courts can consider whether their daughter's religious freedom and due process rights have been violated.

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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    CNN) -- Less than 18 hours before Terri Schiavo was scheduled to have her life-sustaining feeding tube removed, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected an emergency appeal by her parents to stop the procedure.

    The court rejected the appeal by Bob and Mary Schindler on Thursday, clearing the way for Schiavo's husband, Michael, to have the feeding tube removed Friday -- 15 years after she collapsed from heart failure that led to her brain damage.

    Meanwhile, legislation that would keep her alive appeared to stall in the Florida Legislature and the U.S. Congress.

    With time running out in the case, President Bush weighed in on the matter Thursday, saying society and the nation's courts "should have a presumption in favor of life" on such matters.

    "Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern. It should be our goal as a nation to build a culture of life, where all Americans are valued, welcomed and protected -- and that culture of life must extend to individuals with disabilities," Bush said in a written statement.

    The Schindlers filed an emergency appeal early Thursday with the Supreme Court to stop the feeding tube from being removed, arguing that their daughter's religious freedom and due process rights were being violated. But at 7 p.m., the high court rejected the appeal without comment.

    On another front, the Florida Supreme Court rejected a request for a stay by the state's Department of Children and Families, citing a lack of jurisdiction. The agency had argued that it needed time to investigate allegations of abuse by Schiavo's husband.

    In Washington, the U.S. Senate passed a narrower version of a House bill that would give federal courts jurisdiction in Schiavo's case. The House passed a broader bill Wednesday that would give federal courts jurisdiction, not only for the Schiavo case, but also for people in similar conditions.

    With the House in recess for Easter, it appeared that a compromise bill would not make its way to Bush's desk, because there was not enough time to reconcile the differences.

    The Senate's bill prompted a terse response from House Speaker Dennis Hastert and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

    "House Republicans knew we had a moral obligation to act and we did just that last night," they said in a joint statement. "As Terri Schiavo lays helpless in Florida, one day away from the unthinkable and unforgivable, the Senate Democrats refused to join Republicans to act on her behalf."

    In response, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid shot back, "If the House Republicans refuse to pass our bipartisan bill, they bear responsibility for the consequences."

    Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said he was proud of the Senate bill and called on the House to follow its lead.

    "To knowingly and purposely starve Ms. Schiavo to death would be callous, cruel and immoral," said Frist, a doctor. "I am hopeful that the House will consider and pass this legislation quickly."

    Bills in the Florida legislature also seemed to fizzle by late Thursday.

    Lower courts have ruled that Schiavo, 41, is in a "persistent vegetative state."

    Michael Schiavo contends his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially. But her parents argue she had no such death wish and believe she can get better with rehabilitation.

    Both sides have been embroiled in a legal wrangle over whether Schiavo should live or die. Schiavo did not leave anything in writing about what she would want if she ever became incapacitated.

    Courts have sided with her husband in more than a dozen cases over the years.

    A probate court late last month ruled that, barring a stay, Schiavo's feeding tube would be removed at 1 p.m. Friday. Upon removal of the tube, the court estimated Schiavo would die in seven to 14 days.

    Her feeding tube has been removed twice before, most recently in 2003. That year, Gov. Jeb Bush pushed a law through the Florida Legislature that authorized him to resume the woman's feedings six days after a court stopped them. The Florida Supreme Court later ruled the law unconstitutional.

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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    I know elp6n posted this a few days ago, but I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on this situation was? Do you think the feeding tube should be in reinserted or not? My professor was talking to us about it today, and it made me think a whole lot.

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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    alright...here's my $.02 on the issue...

    when we have babies...we feed them right? when people get old and can't feed themselves, we feed them right? okay...well what's the difference in feeding her? I don't think that feeding is keeping alive by artificial means...feeding is a necessity that we all must do to survive...now if she were on a breathing tube, then i say that that would be grounds for artificial means, but denying the poor girl food is like starving your baby or grandmother to death

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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    I think it should be reinserted. She is being starved to death.
    They're killing a woman with an eating disorder by starving & dehydrating her.

    In an ideal situation she wouldn't have been sustained like that in the first place.
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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    I am like you elp6n. Really, its simply a lose-lose situation all the way around in my opinion. It would have been much easier had she not had it inserted to begin with.

    Personally, I dont know exactly how to feel about it. I just don't think we are able to completely know exactly what her wishes were. I feel sorry for her husband for the situation, but also for her parents.

    Although, the worst part is that she has to die a suffering death of starvation & dehydration. Its too bad that a less suffering, and quicker death would come to her since it is going to happen.
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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    oh my bad i thought she was brain dead yeah what are they thinking stick that thing back in!?
    Can you keep a secret? Well I'm afraid of the world because they want me to die, can you believe it?

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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    I only found out this morning that her husband has 2 children with another woman he plans to marry.....coincidence?
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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    no i think they shouldn't bother it i mean i know if i was in a brain dead i'd just want them to go ahead and pull the plug on me so i could see what was on the otherside
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    Re: Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive

    She's not brain dead.
    She's in a 'state of minimal consciousness'

    She laughs, smiles, etc..
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